I enjoyed this review (Naked Anabaptist). I liked the fact that you pointed out different perspectives about "Anabaptism". The book also identifies that "Dutch-German-Swiss" Mennos might resist the sharper, and more precise vision of "Anabaptism" that these Brits affirm.
I think this book would make an excellent study/discussion text in a Mennonite congregation. I hope you will lead such a group.
Here are some more links of interest that will be mentioned in the class: -- LINK TO Schlitheim Confession, 1527 -- LINK TO Confession of Faith in a Mennonite Perspective, 1995 -- LINK TO Jim Juhnke’s letter regarding issues regarding Augsburg Confession -- LINK TO Augsburg Confession, 1530
Here is a link to the website for the Anabaptist Network. The Anabaptist Network is a loose-knit network of individuals and churches in Britain and Ireland interested in the insights of the Anabaptist tradition. Stuart Murray is a part of that group. -- LINK TO Anabaptist Network
There is a lot of interesting material on the Anabaptist Network website. In particular I found the text of a speech given by Stuart Murray of interest. It is a statement he made at the debate on Steve Chalk's book The Lost Message of Jesus sponsored by the Evangelical Alliance on the 7th of October, 2004. I believe the first half of the statement is a good summary of the differences between the pre and post Constantinian Christian Church. -- LINK TO Speech given by Stuart Murray
I have learned that there’s even a term, “Constantinian shift,” defined by Wikipedia. -- LINK TO Wikipedia’s article on Constantinian shift.
Constantinian shift is a term used by Anabaptist and Post-Christendom theologians to describe the political and theological aspects of the 4th-century process of Constantine's legalization of Christianity. The term was popularized by the Mennonite theologian John H. Yoder.
Below are some links to reviews of books that are tangentially related to the subject of Anabaptism: -- Clif's review of Theology As If Jesus Matters, by Ted Grimsrud -- Clif's review of Stories: How Mennonites Came to Be, by John D. Roth -- Clif's review of Practices: Mennonite Worship and Witness, by John D. Roth -- Clif's review of Beliefs: Mennonite Faith and Practice, by John D. Roth -- Clif's review of Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years, by Diarmaid MacCulloch -- Clif's review of Skeptics and Believers: Religious Debate in the Western Intellectual Tradition, by Tyler T. Roberts You’ll need to skip to near the end of the review of MacCulloch’s book in order to find any mention of Mennonites. There is no mention of Mennonites or Anabaptism in the review of Roberts’ book.
The following three lectures by Stuart Murray given at the Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary in 2009 are available on to be downloaded or listened to on-line.
2009-03-30 - Mission Precedes Maintenance, 37 minutes 2009-03-31 - How Mission Made Me an Anabaptist: A Personal Journey, 10 minutes 2009-04-02 - Anabaptism in Post-Christendom, 18 minutes
iTunes is required in order to either download or listen on line.
DOWN LOAD In order to download, open the following website: -- http://www.ambs.edu/iTunesU/ Click on Stuart Murray Williams. The page that then opens will have three buttons to click in order to download the three lectures. The file that’s downloaded will be located in a folder called "i Tunes U" within in the iTunes application.
LISTEN ON LINE If you prefer to listen On-line, search for "stuart murray williams associated mennonite biblical seminary" within the iTunes application and an iTunes page will open where you can listen to the lectures on line.
The following links of interest were originally posted on the top level of this blog. I've moved them here to lower their visibility: --LINK TO Facebook Page for discussion of The Naked Anabaptist --LINK TO Clif's review of The Naked Anabaptist by Stuart Murrary
Here are links to some other Mennonite Confessions of Faith: LINK TO the Dordrecht Confession, (Holland, 1632). LINK TO the Christian Fundamentals (Mennonite Church, 1921).
Clif: Looking at these other "Confessions" will be quite constructive. I will try to scan them myself from your posting. But I think that the Reading (51-79) is really about Core Convictions 1 and 2. On reading it I felt that it reallly challenges a number of the ideas we have about Bible Study, preaching and worship in this congregation. I hope we can talk more about this at some point. Bob
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I enjoyed this review (Naked Anabaptist). I liked the fact that you pointed out different perspectives about "Anabaptism". The book also identifies that "Dutch-German-Swiss" Mennos might resist the sharper, and more precise vision of "Anabaptism" that these Brits affirm.
I think this book would make an excellent study/discussion text in a Mennonite congregation. I hope you will lead such a group.
Here are some more links of interest that will be mentioned in the class:
-- LINK TO Schlitheim Confession, 1527
-- LINK TO Confession of Faith in a Mennonite Perspective, 1995
-- LINK TO Jim Juhnke’s letter regarding issues regarding Augsburg Confession
-- LINK TO Augsburg Confession, 1530
Here is a link to the website for the Anabaptist Network. The Anabaptist Network is a loose-knit network of individuals and churches in Britain and Ireland interested in the insights of the Anabaptist tradition. Stuart Murray is a part of that group.
-- LINK TO Anabaptist Network
There is a lot of interesting material on the Anabaptist Network website. In particular I found the text of a speech given by Stuart Murray of interest. It is a statement he made at the debate on Steve Chalk's book The Lost Message of Jesus sponsored by the Evangelical Alliance on the 7th of October, 2004. I believe the first half of the statement is a good summary of the differences between the pre and post Constantinian Christian Church.
-- LINK TO Speech given by Stuart Murray
I have learned that there’s even a term, “Constantinian shift,” defined by Wikipedia.
-- LINK TO Wikipedia’s article on Constantinian shift.
Constantinian shift is a term used by Anabaptist and Post-Christendom theologians to describe the political and theological aspects of the 4th-century process of Constantine's legalization of Christianity. The term was popularized by the Mennonite theologian John H. Yoder.
Below are some links to reviews of books that are tangentially related to the subject of Anabaptism:
-- Clif's review of Theology As If Jesus Matters, by Ted Grimsrud
-- Clif's review of Stories: How Mennonites Came to Be, by John D. Roth
-- Clif's review of Practices: Mennonite Worship and Witness, by John D. Roth
-- Clif's review of Beliefs: Mennonite Faith and Practice, by John D. Roth
-- Clif's review of Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years, by Diarmaid MacCulloch
-- Clif's review of Skeptics and Believers: Religious Debate in the Western Intellectual Tradition, by Tyler T. Roberts
You’ll need to skip to near the end of the review of MacCulloch’s book in order to find any mention of Mennonites. There is no mention of Mennonites or Anabaptism in the review of Roberts’ book.
The following three lectures by Stuart Murray given at the Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary in 2009 are available on to be downloaded or listened to on-line.
2009-03-30 - Mission Precedes Maintenance, 37 minutes
2009-03-31 - How Mission Made Me an Anabaptist: A Personal Journey, 10 minutes
2009-04-02 - Anabaptism in Post-Christendom, 18 minutes
iTunes is required in order to either download or listen on line.
DOWN LOAD
In order to download, open the following website:
-- http://www.ambs.edu/iTunesU/
Click on Stuart Murray Williams. The page that then opens will have three buttons to click in order to download the three lectures. The file that’s downloaded will be located in a folder called "i Tunes U" within in the iTunes application.
LISTEN ON LINE
If you prefer to listen On-line, search for "stuart murray williams associated mennonite biblical seminary" within the iTunes application and an iTunes page will open where you can listen to the lectures on line.
There is also a short (4 ' 10") YouTube interview with Stuart Murray:
Bob Carlson
The following links of interest were originally posted on the top level of this blog. I've moved them here to lower their visibility:
--LINK TO Facebook Page for discussion of The Naked Anabaptist
--LINK TO Clif's review of The Naked Anabaptist by Stuart Murrary
Here are links to some other Mennonite Confessions of Faith:
LINK TO the Dordrecht Confession, (Holland, 1632).
LINK TO the Christian Fundamentals (Mennonite Church, 1921).
Clif:
Looking at these other "Confessions" will be quite constructive. I will try to scan them myself from your posting.
But I think that the Reading (51-79) is really about Core Convictions 1 and 2. On reading it I felt that it reallly challenges a number of the ideas we have about Bible Study, preaching and worship in this congregation. I hope we can talk more about this at some point.
Bob
Here's A LINK to an interesting article from The American Spectator entitled "Mennonite Takeover?"
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